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Old Apr 18, 2007, 10:45 AM // 10:45   #1
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Hey guys,

I consider myself a decent Guild Wars player. I only have one character that I play, my beloved ele, but with this character I have finished all 3 campaigns, gotten Protector of Tyria (along with numerous other titles), completed all but one of the end-game prophecies quests and Sorrows Furnace quests with heroes and henchmen, and solo-farmed the money for a set of Obsidian armor, and all four Vabbian headsets, in under a month. Yet I have done pretty much all of this by myself. And despite the fact that the game is called Guild Wars, I have not been able to find a good community of players that I can call myself a member of.

There is no actual system within the game for finding a guild to play with. A guild with which you share common in-game goals with. If you want to find a PvP or PvE focused guild, a mix of both, or one that just simply likes to have fun, it can be incredibly difficult.

I was in a guild with a close bunch of friends, but it dissolved when they all bought World of Warcraft, and ceased to play Guild Wars. Even when I was part of that guild however, because of conflicts of interest and no clear vision of what direction the guild should take, essentially no guild-related play ever happened.

After this I sought a new guild; one that shared my goals and what I wanted to achieve in the game. The question of how to do this soon arose. I had no other contacts in the game to find guilds through word of mouth, and as a general rule all guilds that spam for new recruits in trade channels are soulless entities that suck in new players, who wallow in a murky pit of unfriendly guildmates and lack of events until they are wise enough to haul themselves out and join a better guild. So, rant over, the question I pose is this.

How did you find your guild?

Is it luck of the draw? Being somewhere at the right time? Or something else?

All I want is a guild focussed on high-end PvE play. One that I can help, and that can help me in return. One that I can form strong friendships in, and really enjoy the game with. A tight-knit community of good and helpful players. Surely there are enough decent people in this game for such a guild to exist?

P.S. If it is not against the rules here, I would ask that if anyone is a member of such a guild, and would permit me to join, please inform me. I would be more than willing to join a guild such as the one I described above. So, by all means, let me know.
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Old Apr 18, 2007, 10:57 AM // 10:57   #2
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I feel your pain, try this link http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=9

You'll see "looking for guild?" on the top of the page, it's a sticky can't miss it. Advertise yourself there, pve, pvp, number of active memebers, whatever you fancy. This is the best way to find the right guild for you, I think. In game spams recruiting are well,....not good. Good luck finding the new guild.
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Old Apr 18, 2007, 10:57 AM // 10:57   #3
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Well for me, I've actually only been in two guilds. The first belonged to someone I met in GW, the second, and the one I'm still in, is...a friend's xD I've known him for a long time so yeah.

My guild is pretty much on and off and we don't even schedule stuff, but everyone is really cool with each other and well, if there are enough people on, we'll just hit AB or something. Personally, I think if you want to find a good guild, just try to join one with a group of friends and slowly get to know the other people in the guild. Chances are, if you join a guild by yourself, you wouldn't find much fun in being there.

Also, a word of advice =P Unless you want to join one of those alliances that hold HzH or Cavalon...joining guilds that spam for members in general isn't the way to go =D Those usually...usually, fall apart because of guild drama.
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Old Apr 18, 2007, 12:09 PM // 12:09   #4
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I found my guild by asking for help in a quest. The leader of the Guild was then only one who didn't treat my question like I was a noob which I wasn't. After completing the quest I was invited and have been there for 10 months now. If you want a guild use the search function as I am now an officer and that is the first place I look to see if anyone is looking for a guild. Also advertise yourself in the bigger towns letting people know what you are looking for in a guild. You can also do quests with guild groups and see how they work with you. Finally make sure you feel that you have asked all the right questions about the guild and how it will fit you and you will fit it. Hope this will help you in your quest for a good guild for you.

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Old Apr 18, 2007, 01:17 PM // 13:17   #5
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I found my guild by asking for help in a quest. The leader of the GUild was then only one who didn't treat my quwestion like I was a noob which I wasn't. After completing the quest I was invited and have been there for 10 months now.
That's the part i totally agree with. Found my guild the same way. Well, it was me who offered help to my future guildies, but there's no big difference.

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Also advertise yourself in the bigger towns letting people know what you are looking for in a guild.
IMO --> Don't do it. Never. U will get tons of offers from teen guilds with kewl cape and all other BS u can only imagine. It's very unlikely that leader or officers of rly helpful, mature guild will recruit ppl this way.

Another way is to try "looking for guild" section here, on guru.

P.S. U can pm me in game if u need help with smthing, cause i'm PvE player mostly. I'm not trying to force u to join my guild, just offering help. Good luck, mate.
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Old Apr 18, 2007, 01:29 PM // 13:29   #6
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I found my guild here in this site. There is a guild recruitment section here. I stated my specifications about a guild that I like. Some guilds pm'ed me and here I am today with the guild that invited me. I never looked into another guild again and am currently satisfied with their camaraderie. I think you should do that too. If you don't like your guild then find a new one, that simple
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Old Apr 18, 2007, 01:31 PM // 13:31   #7
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It is a crap shoot. I was able to find my guild when 2 of my RL friends got in. I helped on a few missions and they liked what they saw. Most times you will get a guild invite when an officer of a guild likes what he or she sees.
Btw I totally agree in not advertizing that you are looking for a guild in chat. Makes you look desperate. Also when looking for a guild make sure you are guildless. That is how my guild looks for decent players. A guildless player that is decent will get more invites than a player who has a guild.
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Old Apr 18, 2007, 01:32 PM // 13:32   #8
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I found my guild by posting my "player profile" at Guru, GWO, and Guild-Hall, sometime in June 2005. And after that, the core players simply formed a new guild. I think that's one of the best ways to do it, if you don't know too many people in game.

I should comment on how my own guild looks for players:

We don't. We have enough friend referrals that we never send blind invites, and we don't check forums looking for players anymore (though we used to, and we found a pretty good group that way). There will simply be some guilds you won't be able to get into unless you apply to them directly and ask to join. So you should be prepared for that as well in your search.

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Old Apr 18, 2007, 01:32 PM // 13:32   #9
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IMO --> Don't do it. Never. U will get tons of offers from teen guilds with kewl cape and all other BS u can only imagine. It's very unlikely that leader or officers of rly helpful, mature guild will recruit ppl this way.
I look for a post like looking for mature guild in the message. I also do not invite all who post this way but it is an option to get names. That said a good active guild is your best bet for questing with real ppl. Find a guild that fits you, ask for a quest invitation, check out the guild hall and maybe talk to other members of the guild. Hope you find what you are looking for, goodluck.
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Old Apr 18, 2007, 01:44 PM // 13:44   #10
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We are a small, tightly knit group of friends. Most of the people in our guild were members/officers of another guild. The leader was taking things way to seriously, to the point of going on a screaming rant at one of the kids in the guild. We all wanted to just play and have fun so we quit and formed our own guild. Our only rule is to have fun. We help each other out, when ever we can. We have nothing orgainized and most of us are usually on in the evening, eastern time. We have a few people on the west coast.

We all get along so well, there are times I, or anyone else, will get on for just a bit to just chat and check in with folks.
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Old Apr 18, 2007, 02:28 PM // 14:28   #11
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I used to be in two good PvE guilds. I met the first one by pugging UW groups with a friend and got a really good one. After playing together for about 3 hours, they asked me to join. The second one I started myself when I already had a fairly large friendlist and we started out as about 10 people. Friends invited their friends and I never really needed to spam guild invites until the guild was in a decline, at which point it didn't really help.

I'd say the best guilds are formed through friend-lists (this applies to PvP even more than to PvE). So, if you're interested in end-game PvE, go to those areas. Look for pugs in FoW, Urgoz, DoA... whatever you like... when you find a good one, or even just one good player, ask if you can join their guild if they don't ask you first.
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Old Apr 18, 2007, 02:55 PM // 14:55   #12
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My first guild, that I was with for about a year, I found via a friend, who had teamed up with a member of the guild in pre-searing a month or two after Prophecies came out. My second guild, which I have been in for about 6 months (there was a long floating around period inbetween) I found when I ended up being the only non-guild member in a UW team (we cleared it, even after a few ppl had to call it a night). They were pleased with my play, we had a bunch of fun, and I joined the guild right after that. So yeah, long and the short of it, its kind of random who you run into and when.
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Old Apr 18, 2007, 03:05 PM // 15:05   #13
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When I came back from my Boycott of GW I joined an amazing guild. I was picked up as a pug on a FoW run and was recruited by the coolest bunch of people I'd ever met. Unfortunatly there was some drama within the guild and we ended up branching off to make our own new guild.

Im happy with the way things turned out now though, our guild is 5 alliance's strong, full of active, nice, helpful members. I stopped playing guild wars for guild wars a while ago, now I play because I enjoy the company of my fellow guildmates and to me thats all guild wars is about now-a-days.

And Ivy you mean ass you never PM me anymore! : (
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Old Apr 18, 2007, 04:46 PM // 16:46   #14
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I found my guild.....wait...they found me heh. A group of IRL friends of mine and I formed a guild a couple months after the game was released. We've stuck together the whole time and have picked up a few other peoples that we have met in game.

Most of the people that joined my guild that don't know the main members IRL met us in RA and were just generally good people who liked to have friendly banter while playing.

My advice is just to start playing PUGs. Make sure to be vocal in the group, just find stuff to chat about while running from one place to another (good place for this is Tombs but eles generally arnt used there). If you meet any people in there who strike you as fun, ask em if they would mind playing with you some other time. Add them. And start playing with em regularly. If you stil like em, ask about their guild. If you like it, join, if not, start over again (keep the person as a friend though).

Who knows if you gather enough cool friends you might be able to start your own guild *shrug*.

Finding a good guild that is friends instead of aquaintances is great I must say though.
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Old Apr 18, 2007, 05:03 PM // 17:03   #15
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My Guild is my FPS Clan - We started through HALO PC 4 years ago and have started branching out into other games. Guild Wars being one of them. I have known my guild members / clan mates for a long long time. We are a friendly bunch who try to help anyone in game where we can whether they are guild members or not, granted we do like screw around some times. we mainly focus on PvE some PvP when there is nothing else to do. But it defiantly helps being friends with the people you play with.
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Old Apr 18, 2007, 06:07 PM // 18:07   #16
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my guild is me, my hubby and his brother.....dont need much more now for the game...and did I have a choice????
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Old Apr 18, 2007, 06:46 PM // 18:46   #17
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Found my guild through someone who recruited in public. Couldn't have been more lucky. It's a great guild with a great alliance with 95% friendly people that help you no matter what.
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Old Apr 18, 2007, 06:53 PM // 18:53   #18
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Oh the irony, yes I'm vague. You'll see what I'm talking about in a few days time
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Old Apr 18, 2007, 07:06 PM // 19:06   #19
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Oh the irony, yes I'm vague. You'll see what I'm talking about in a few days time
What a big tease you are. It would be ironic if they did away with guilds. We then could call it NO Guild Wars.

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Old Apr 18, 2007, 07:20 PM // 19:20   #20
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well by luck i guess and by knowing many ppl for example in the guild i am now i met an officer when i was still in the previous and we did a little ha together and when my pre guild was disbanded he invited me to his and this happens all the time
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